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tiger


good evening everyone hope you all enjoyed wroxham barns for those that went and had a safe journey home im sure your dying for the wroxham barns champions cup results,updated leaderboard and handicap list but first iam going to give you all a simple run down of how the champions cup system work as i have had someone not quite sure how it all works .

1 remember all scores obtained in a champions cup event are based on your handicap allowance
so if your handicap is a straight 1 for example and you shoot a 35 then the 35 becomes 34 -2 so if
the event is 3 rounds and you shot 35,30 32 for example without your handicap with your handicap those scores
would be 34,29,31 leaving you finishing on -14 for the tournament so that is how the scores/results are done/obtained


2 now on to the points system remember its all about your handicap points are scored based firstly on your finishing position so for 1st place you would pick up 150 points 2nd 100 3rd 50 4th 30 5th 20 6th 10 points now your finishing position in an event is based on your handicap included score so if you shoot 34,29,31 -14 with your handicap and nobody beats that obviously you will win the event and collect 150 points your scores with your handicap allowance are the bottom row of scores entitled gross/with handicap at the end within the results leaderboard .



3 now on to the round score points again all handicap related so for example if you shot 30 ,35,42 of course with your handicap allowance you would get 145 points so thats 75 points for the 30 a sub 32 round 50 points for the 35 a sub 36 round and 20 points for the 42 a sub 50 round totalling a 145 points remember all round score points gained are based on your gross/with handicap scores not net scores as you will see in previous result leaderboards the point scoring is on page 1


4 now on to the extra points you can earn these are non handicap related firstly there is points for senior,junior and lady so for example if you were top senior according to the champions cup result leaderboard you would get the top senior points 75 points added on to your total round score points same applies with junior and lady points 75 points for these catergories .

then we have the aces prize this is not handicap related if you shoot most aces outright in an event thats another 100 points to your total
then finally the perfect par round points again non handicap related if you shoot 18 2s thats an extra 50 points on your total if you shoot 3 perfect 36s thats 150 points gained then we have points for most 2s 100 points for most 2s scored


5 so to sum it all up as shown in the examples above after an event you could finish 1st thats 150 points ,145 for your tournament round scores 75 for top senior ,most aces 100 and one perfect par round 50 = 520 points


hope this helps everyone wroxham results to follow



Last edited by perfect par on Sun May 12, 2013 7:40 pm; edited 2 times in total

tiger


hello once again the moment you have all been waiting for the results from wroxham barns so here is the results leaderboard


1 chris wood (9)
37,46,39,35,40,39,37 +21 net
28,37,30,26,31,30,28 -42 gross/with handicap


2 sean homer (1)
32,30,32,35,32,33,31 -27 net
31,29,31,34,31,32,30 -34 gross/with handicap


mark wood (8 )
43,34,39,42,41,42,33 +22
35,26,31,34,33,34,25 -34 gross/with handicap



3 tony kelly (1)
33,33,35,32,34,33,31 -21 net
32,32,34,31,33,32,30 -28 gross/with handicap



4 will donnelly (3)
38,39,39,36,32,32,30 -6 net
35,36,36,33,29,29,27 -27 gross/with handicap


5 michael smith (+1)
30,37,33,33,31,28,29 - 31 net
31 38,34,34,32,29,30 -24 gross/with handicap


6 adam kelly (+2)
32,33,30,31,34,31,29 -32 net
34,35,32,33,36,33,31 -18 gross/with handicap



numbers in brackets = a players current handicap



so there you have it the final wroxham results well done to chris wood winning with a -42 score line and to sean homer on coming second on -34 with his 1 handicap equaling mark woods score of -34 but mark playing off a much higher handicap great achievement and to will donnelly on an amazing comeback on day 2 and a worthy comeback on day 2 from michael smith well done to him and everyone that took part see you all at hastings for the wagms and practice beforehand hopefully . updated leaderboard to follow

tiger


so here is the new champions cup leaderboard and it looks like this


1 will donnelly 1835 points
2 michael smith 1780
3 adam kelly 1685
4 tony kelly 1585
5 sean homer 1515
6 chris wood 1475
mark wood 1475
7 alex pragnell 975
8 martin greenhead 735
9 dave donnelly 730
10 andy exall 705
11 brian smith 700
12 ollie greenhead 440
13 scott lancley 400
david pragnell 400
vannessa wood 400
14 marion homer 370
15 matty exall 345
16 alex exall 210
17 phil exall 175
18 ryan lancley 40



so there you have it people the updated table well done to will on retaining the lead and to sean homer jumping up to 1515 a whoppinng 700 points increase and to michael smith who has cut wills lead from 100 points to 55 points can will stay top after the battle of hastings next month or will he be knocked of his perch

until next time VTK

ps new handicap list to follow

tiger


and finally here is the updated handicap list

1 adam kelly +4
2 michael smith +3
3 sean homer +2
4 tony kelly +2
5 will donnelly SCR
6 andy exall 2
7 scott lancley 2
8 mark wood 5
9 chris wood 5
10 brian smith 6
11 phil exall 6
12 alex pragnell 7
13 alex exall 7
14 martin greenhead 7
15 david pragnell 8
16 MARION homer 8
17 dave donnelly 9
18 ollie greenhead 13
19 vannessa wood 13
20 matty exall 14
21 ryan lancley 25


so thats it for now see you all at hastings in june VTK

The Force


Am I the only one that thinks this is all a load of pointless (no pun intended...) mumbo jumbo? affraid

tiger


mumbo jumbo marc what you going on about

tiger


hi everyone latest champions cup results from hastings and new handicap list and leaderboard plus news about boscombe coming your way right here tonight

tiger


good evening everyone so it was not to be the germans yet again shot an arrow through the eyes of team GB at the battle of hastings last weekend after a brave fight from the brits and king martin was dethroned by one of his own team mates .so the end of the battle of hastings    drew to a close in germanys favour but im sure we will be back stronger next year. but wait that same weekend there was rumour of another battle taking place the champions cup who survived by the skin of their teeth, who walked it and who needs a wake up call here are the latest results including wagm and bago to wet your appetite 

                              WAGM  RESULTS         


1  Dave donnelly   (9)  34,32,37,29,35,32,34  -19 net    
                               25,23,28,20,26,23,25  -81 gross/with handicap        


2 Alex pragnell      (7) 35,36,3639,32,33,32     -9  net     
                              28,29,29,32,25,26,25    -56 gross/with handicap       


3 Martin greenhead (7) 38,38,34,37,36,37,38   +6  net       
                                31,31,27,30,29,30,31   -43 gross/with handicap     

4 Mark wood           (5) 39,39,38,33,31,34,34   -4   net      
                                  34,34,33,28,26,29,29  -39 gross/with handicap            

5 chris wood            (5)  35,39,37,40,33,30,36   -2  net       
                                   30,34,32,35,28,25,31   -37 gross/with handicap     


6  Scott lancley        (2)   36,36,36,37,32,32,28    -15  net      
                                    34,34,34,35,30,30,26     -29 gross/with handicap      


7  Michael smith        (+3)  31,28,33,30,27,31,29     -43  net        
                                     34,31,36,33,30,34,32     -22 gross/with handicap     

8 Sean homer            (+2)  29,33,32,31,30,32,30     -35 net    
                                      31,35,34,33,32,34,32     -21 gross/with handicaps                   

9 Will donnelly           (SCR)  34,37,33,31,32,33,34    -18  net    
                                        34,37,33,31,32,33,34    -18 gross/with handicap    

10 adam kelly             (+4)    30,29,31,34,28,30,30     -40 net    
                                        34,33,35,38,32,34,34      -12 gross/with handicap    

11 tony kelly               (+2)   33,32,33,35,30,31,33       -25  net      
                                         35,34,35,37,32,33,35       -11 gross/with handicap       

ps numbers in brackets =players current handicap going in to wagms



                                      BAGO RESULTS          


1      Dave donnelly  (9)   35,32,34    -7    net    
                                    26,23,25   -34 gross/with handicap    

2       Alex pragnell   (7)   32,33,32     -11  net      
                                   25,26,25     -32 gross/with handicap       

3       chris wood      (5)  33,30,36      -9  net     
                                   28,25,31     -24 gross/with handicap    

       Mark wood      (5)  31,34,34      -9  net    
                                  26,29,29      -24 gross/with handicap     


4    Scott lancley    (2)  32,32 28      -16  net      
                                  30,30,26      -22 gross/with handicap         


5   martin greenhead (7)  36,37,38     +3   net     
                                   29,30,31    -18 gross/with handicap     


6  Michael smith        (+3)  27,31,29    -21  net    
                                     30,34,32    -12 gross/with handicap     


7 Sean homer        (+2)  30,32,30    -16  net    
                                      3,34,32     -10 gross/with handicap    


8 Will donnelly       (SCR)   32,33,34    -9  net    
                                     32,33,34    -9 gross/with handicap     


9 Adam kelly          (+4)    28,30,30     -20 net   
                                     32,34,34     -8 gross/with handicap    

   Tony kelly           (+2)    30,31,33     -14  net  
                                      32,33,35     -8 gross/ with handicap       

   ps numbers in brackets = players handicap going in to bago         



                          updated leader board after wagms and bago    



1 michael smith 1780-  2615   

2  will donnelly  1835 -  2540    

3  mark wood    1475  -  2405   


4  dave donnelly  730-    2380   

5  chris wood      1475-   2345   

6  adam kelly      1685  -  2315   

7  alex pragnell    975   -  2150      

8  sean homer     1515  -  2140   

9  tony kelly        1585  -2115    

10 martin greenhead 735- 1730   

11 scott lancley       400- 1130    

12 andy exall            705-705      

13 brian smith            700-700     

14 ollie greenhead       440-440      

15  vanessa wood        400-400   

     david pragnell         400-400    


16   marion homer         370 -370     

17  matty exall              345-345       


18  alex exall                  210-210    


19  phil exall                    175-175   

20 ryan lancley                  40-40             

ps total on left=players existing points total total on right= players new total after wagms and bago 


just to say a big thankyou to everyone who played last weekend secondly a big well done to michael smith for reaching the summit of the champions cup leader board after playing off a plus handicap all season he has been racking the points up averaging just over 435 per event a mean feat with a +3 handicap and also a big well done to dave donnelly on winning the wagm and bago with his 9 handicap his handicap shot right up due to poor performance at splashpoint,blue water and did not play wroxham so un like others his handicap handicap stayed the same in time for wagms .also a big thankyou to marion for running the tournament brilliantly as always sadly no champions cup points awarded for organisation but we hope to see her pick up lots of points at boscombe she is a decent matchplayer beware people.



Last edited by mini tiger on Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:32 am; edited 1 time in total

tiger


updated handicap list  after wagms and bago     


1 michael smith +3 -  +6      
2 adam kelly     +4  - +6     
3 sean homer    +2  -+5   
4 tony kelly       +2  - +4     
5 dave donnelly  9    -+3  
6 will donnelly    SCR  - +3   
7 scott lancley   2     -  +3  
8 alex pragnell    7     -  +2    
9 mark wood      5     -   +1  
10 chris wood     5     -   +1  
11 martin greenhead 7  -   1    
12 andy exall           2   -  2   
13 phil exall             6   -  6    
14 brian smith          6   -  6 
15 alex exall            7    - 7
16 marion homer        8   -  8        
17 david pragnell        8    - 8     
18 ollie greenhead       13  - 13  
19 vanessa wood        13  -  13  
20 matty exall             14-    14  
21 ryan lancley            25  -   25     


ps numbers on left = players old handicap number on right = players new handicap

tiger


regarding the matchplay yes the champions cup will run  but your handicaps will not be in use and the normal point scoring will not apply other than points totals for top senior,junior and lady which is 75 points for each catergory also points for finishing positions will apply so 150 for 1st 100 for 2nd 50 for 3rd 30 for 4th 20 for 5th and 10 for 6th as normal plus the matchplay points system will come in to play nice and simple 50 points for every match you win and 20 for a draw nothing for a loss.

also the last champions cup event this season is world crazies  so you have 4 events left inc matchplay to increase your points totals good luck everyone .the prize ceremony will take place after the kent open at sidcup in the event two or more people finish on same points there will be play offs sudden death to decide final finishing positions.    


      just a reminder of prize  breakdown      

1st place=  £30+ the champions cup trophy + minigolf ball  
2nd place = £20 + minigolf ball   
3rd place   = £10 + minigolf ball  
4th place   = £5   + minigolf ball   
5th place    = £2   + minigolf ball    


top junior £10 gift voucher   
top lady  £10  gift voucher 
top senior £10 gift voucher    



ok folks thats it for now look forward to see some or all of you at matchplay until then  VTK

tiger


matchplay champions cup results


1 michael smith P W D L
7 6 0 1 450 PTS

2 sean homer 6 4 1 1 395


3 adam kelly 4 2 1 0 225


4 mark wood 5 2 1 2 170

5 marion homer 4 1 0 2 125

6 alex pragnell 6 2 0 4 110

tony kelly 4 2 0 2 110

7 will donnelly 4 0 1 3 20

chris wood 5 0 1 4 20



updated leaderboard


1 michael smith 2615- 3065

2 mark wood 2405 - 2575

3 will donnelly 2540 - 2560

4 sean homer 2140 - 2535

adam kelly 2315 - 2535


5 dave donnelly 2380 - 2380

6 chris wood 2345 - 2365

7 alex pragnell 2150 - 2260

8 tony kelly 2115 - 2225

9 martin greenhead 1730 - 1730

10 scott lancley 1130 - 1130

11 andy exall 705 - 705

12 brian smith 700 - 700

13 marion homer 370 - 495

14 ollie greenhead 440 - 440

15 vanessa wood 400 -400

david pragnell 400 - 400

16 matty exall 345 - 345

17 alex exall 210 - 210

18 phil exall 175 - 175

19 ryan lancley 40 - 40




numbers on left= old points and number on the right = new points

The Force


Marvelous. I think. Congratulations to Michael. I think. Baffling.Shocked 

tiger


hello and welcome to the final champions cup event results so who beat st jude and who didn't read on to find out


1 (13) ollie greenhead 41,43,43,,43,44,51 +49 net
27,30,30,30,31,37 - 31 gross/with handicap



2 (7) brian smith 41,42,41,37,46,38 +29 net
34,35,34,30,39,31 -13 gross/with handicap


3 (7) alex exall 38,47,37,41,48,41 +36 net
31,40,30,34,41,34 -6 gross/with handicap


4 (10) adrian amey 40,45,41,45,45,59 +59 net
30,35,31,35,35,49 -1 gross/with handicap


5 (4) dave donnelly 38,39,41,48,43,36 +29 net
34,35,37,44,39,32 +4 gross/with handicap


6 (5) chris wood 38,41,36,34,43,46,54 +40 net
33,36,31,29,38,41,49 +5 gross/with handicap

(4) will donnelly 38,40,41,40,40,46 +29 net
34,36,37,36,36,42 +5 gross/with handicap


7 (5) tiger pragnell 49,39,42,36,49,45 +44 net
44,34,37,31,44,40 +14 gross/with handicap


(5) mark wood 44,39,43,36,43,55 +44 net
39,34,38,31,38,50 +14 gross/with handicap


8 (1) marc chapman 38,33,36,37,40,45,46 +23 net
37,32,35,36,39,44,45 + 16 gross/with handicap

(3) martin greenhead 39,43,39,38,44,47 +34 net
36,40,36,35,41,44 +16 gross/with handicap


9 (1) tony kelly 41,34,45,36,,41,41,38 +24 net
40,33,44,35,40,40,37 +17 gross/with handicap


10 (2) scott lancley 39,34,46,37,44,42,47 +37 net
37,32,44,35,42,40,45 +23 gross/with handicap


11 (+2) sean homer 38,36,38,34,39,45,41 +19 net
40,38,40,36,41,47,43 +31 gross/with handicap


12 (+1) andy exall 40,37,40,40,35,51 +27 net
41,38,41,41,36,52 +33 gross/with handicap


13 (+3) michael smith 38,41,35,35,46,37,43 +23 net
41,44,38,38,49,40,46 +44 gross /with handicap

14 (+4) adam kelly 38,37,35,36,40,49,45 +28 net
42,41,39,40,44,53,49 +56 gross/with handicap

ps numbers in brackets= players current handicap


updated leaderboard


1 michael smith 3715 - 3945
2 chris wood 3140 - 3495
3 sean homer 3175 - 3485
4 adam kelly 3335 - 3475
5 mark wood 3040 - 3275
6 will donnelly 2955 - 3255
7 tony kelly 2785 - 3025
8 dave donnelly 2680 - 2955
9 tiger pragnell 2540 - 2765
10 martin greenhead 2030 - 2250
11 andy exall 2070 - 2210
12 scott lancley 1865 - 2110
13 brian smith 950 - 1380
14 ollie greenhead 440 - 1020
15 matty exall 775 - 775
16 adrian amey 335 - 655
17 alex exall 210 - 560
18 marc chapman 160 - 535
19 marion homer 475 - 475
20 vanessa wood 400 - 400
david pragnell 400 - 400
21 phil exall 175 - 175
22 ryan lancley 40 - 40



2013 prize winners

1 michael smith £30 the trophy + minigolf ball
2 chris wood £20 + minigolf ball
3 sean homer £10 + minigolf ball
4 adam kelly £ 5 + minigolf ball
5 mark wood £ 2 + minigolf ball


top junior adam kelly £10 gift voucher
top senior sean homer £10 gift voucher
top lady marion homer £10 gift voucher


so thats it for 2013 a big thankyou to everyone that took part this season and well done to all the prize winners look forward to see you all at a champions cup event in 2014





Mr X


Good effort Tiger, good to see Eagle & Natural high up there. I hope the prize recipients thank the sponsor! cheers 

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The Force


The Force wrote:Marvelous. I think. Congratulations to Michael. I think. Baffling.Shocked 
Nice to see this particular 'handicap system' has worked...oh hang on...Twisted Evil 

tiger


what are you waffling about marc it does not work keep your opinions to yourself please unless they are nice ones or positive ones im just about getting bored of your mickey taking

Mr X


To be honest anyone trying to add a new twist to things should be applauded & the fact that Chris came 2nd proves that it did work up to a point, unfortunately for all of us Michael sets a standard that we all struggle to reach & is a worthy champion. Well done Michael & well done Tiger!

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The Natural


Mr X wrote:To be honest anyone trying to add a new twist to things should be applauded & the fact that Chris came 2nd proves that it did work up to a point, unfortunately for all of us Michael sets a standard that we all struggle to reach & is a worthy champion. Well done Michael & well done Tiger!

+1 cheers 

69 Can I echo all those sentiments on Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:14 pm

Breakdown


sunny Thanks to all the organisers and helpers for the 4 competitons I have entered. Well Done to Michael for setting the standard. Something to aspire too.Well done to all the podem winners yesterday. Well done to Tiger for his special efforts it put a nice varience on things. Well done to DT for the Kent club member of the year.Especially well done to Chris Smith for showing the rest of us that the more expereiced can still do a job, having personally witnessed two of those rounds.

In memory of what might have been during my three rounds, I am thinking in good old Tiger style of changing my nickname to reflect what happened in two of my three rounds. It brokedown and i was in need of a fourth emergency service.I am just seeing what it looks like in lights and then I will comfirm. AA = " BREAKDOWN" Sad 

Mr X


Breakdown wrote:sunny Thanks to all the organisers and helpers for the 4 competitons I have entered. Well Done to Michael for setting the standard. Something to aspire too.Well done to all the podem winners yesterday. Well done to Tiger for his special efforts it put a nice varience on things. Well done to DT for the Kent club member of the year.Especially well done to Chris Smith for showing the rest of us that the more expereiced can still do a job, having personally witnessed two of those rounds.

In memory of what might have been  during my three rounds, I am thinking in good old Tiger style of changing my nickname to reflect what happened in two of my three rounds. It brokedown and i was in need of a fourth emergency service.I am just seeing what it looks like in lights and then I will comfirm. AA = " BREAKDOWN" Sad 
Haha I wondered who Breakdown was Adrian but don't worry, most of us have had more than a few lately. My 51 in the WCGC springs to mind. pale 

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tiger



hello everyone and welcome to the champions cup 2014 hope you all had good xmas and new year .Last year saw the 1st ever champions cup take place which is a season long event in which people score points on various key catergories and also there is a handicap system in place to give everyone a even chance at finishing in the prize stakes or even win the title. So the 1st ever champions cup did prove a sucess and british no1 michael smith managed to lay his hands on the trophy after playing off a minus handicap all season pretty impressive indeed, and with serveral lower ranked players making the prize ranks last season the champions cup proved that its purpose was served.

now on to the 2014 champions cup and after a sucessful 2013 the 2014 champions cup promises to be even better with 4 new kmgc members entering the fold and more ways to collect points this season its a great time to be part of the champions cup.
now on with the show hope you all enjoyed the cup cake classic ,but who found it a piece of cake and who didn't
find out with the results and leaderboard from the 1st event of 2014


cupcake classic results

1 mark wood(cat3) 28,24,31 -25
2 martin greenhead(cat3) 28,28,35 -17
3 chris wood (cat2) 31,33,30 -14
4 brian smith (cat3) 30,30,37 -11
5 paul chatfield (cat3) 32,33,33 -10
6 dean cripps-humphrey(cat3) 32,33,34 -9
7 dave donnelly (cat2) 30,36,36 -6
8 tiger pragnell (cat2) 34,34,36 -4
9 adam kelly (cat1) 34,33,38 -3
michael smith (cat1) 34,32,39 -3
10 tony kelly (cat1) 34,34,38 -2
matt dodd (cat3) 39,35,32 -2
11 sean homer (cat1) 35,33,39 -1
12 will donnelly (cat1) 38,31,39 E
13 adrian amey (cat3) 35,39,36 +2
14 andy exall (cat1) 38,41,32 +3
15 andy booth (cat3) 36,38,40 +6
16 marion homer(cat3) 38,40,37 +7
17 matty exall (cat3) 54,40,39 +24

please remember there is a handicap allowance in place for cat 2 and 3 players +5 for cat 2 players and +8 for cat 3 players
there is no longer a handicap allowance for cat 1 players

leaderboard


1 mark wood - 500 points
2 chris wood - 410
3 adam kelly - 400
4 michael smith - 295
5 tony kelly - 265
6 sean homer - 230
martin greenhead 230
7 brian smith - 200
8 paul chatfield - 180
9 dean c-humphreys 160
10 dave donnelly 140
marion homer 140
11 tiger pragnell 120
matty exall 120
12 andy exall 100
13 matt dodd 90
14 will donnelly 70
15 adrian amey 60
16 andy booth 50

so thats it people the end of event 1 and a host of cat 1 players have made their mark on the competition after event 1 well done to those people good start . But the headlines have been grabbed by the woodies who are currently controlling the champions cup summit
until star city VTK

tiger


KMGC champions cup points scoring  

                   CATERGORY POINTS
   1 top young gun  (13 yrs and under)      100 points  
  2  top junior         (14-18 yrs         )      100 points  
 3   top senior                                       100 points  
 4   top lady                                          100 points  
 5   most aces      (cat1)                         100 points  
                        (cat2)                         100 points
                        (cat3)                        100 points
 6   steady eddie (most 2s)                  
                       (cat1)                         75 points  
                       (cat2)                         75 points
                       (cat3)                         75 points
 7   fewest dropped shots (cat1)            75  points
                                   (cat2)           75  points
                                   (cat3)          75   points     
 8   perfect par round                              20  points    
 9   hot streak  (4 aces  in a row in a round  20  points      
 
10  player of the tournament                      150 points  
11  top cat 1 player                                   100 points    
12  top  cat 2 player                                  100 points  
13 top   cat 3 player                                  100 points  


               [b][u]FINISHING POINTS  
1st      250   points          
2nd     230   points  
3rd      210  points  
4th      200  points  
5th      180  points  
6th      160  points  
7th      140  points  
8th      120  points  
9th      100  points  
10th    90    points  
11th   80     points  
12th   70     points  
13th   60     points    
14th   50     points  
15th   40     points  
16th   20     points  
17th   10     points    
18th    5      points  
19th    2      points      

                            handicap allowance      

                  cat 1   no    allowance      
                  cat 2    +5      
                  cat 3     +8                


                   so thats it   quite simply to work your points totals out just add up all catergory points including finishing points that apply to you . handicaps cat 2 players may deduct 5 off every round they play so a 36 would become 31 and cat 3 players can deduct 8 off every round they play so 36 would become 28  and there is no longer an allowance  for cat 1 players   .
Good luck to all going to star city.  

ps look out for news on the all new champions cup doubles competition taking place this season



Last edited by tiger on Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:57 am; edited 2 times in total

The Force


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I'm surprised it took you so long Wink

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Tiger, how do you decide who the player of the tournament is?

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